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Monday, December 12, 2005

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Today, for the first time, I ate organic celery. My-oh-my, what a difference! I expect celery to not-taste-like-much. ("Subtle", it's called in polite circles). But THIS stuff... it had a strong taste!

Was it good? Did I like it? I'm not sure... you see, I was distracted... there was a problem, the celery was causing a problem. I wasn't sure at first, perhaps it was unrelated to the celery, perhaps it was my fault (operator error, incorrect celery consumption), so I performed some tests, and... it was the celery. Problematic celery. Celery with an attitude.

The celery made my tongue go numb. It's true. I googled it, and this is (apparently) a known problem. Others have experienced this.

Chemistry is weird. Biochemistry is worse.

87 Comments:

Blogger Cam said...

That's weird, because my mouth does that even when I eat regular vegetables. Seriously. I can't eat a lot of fruits and vegetables because I have an allergic reaction to them. My whole mouth goes itchy, and then numb. Weird.

12/13/2005 3:20 PM  
Blogger Helly said...

Wow, numbing celery. Vegetables must be different on your side of the pond. Although, we don't put rocks in our peanut butter over here, either. :-)

12/13/2005 6:18 PM  
Blogger Tiffany said...

Geez. Numbing celery, eh? See? Good reason right there not to eat rabbit food! LOL J/K I love fresh vegetables. I've never heard of this before though. Could it be related to that pebble you found in your sandwich?

12/14/2005 6:45 AM  
Blogger ipoddauta said...

Mom offered me some. I wouldn't dare smell it. I like to feel my mouth, thank you very much. To much pineapple makes my mouth feel funny. Not exactly numb, but....... Funny.

12/14/2005 10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

about the celery....... I am convinced its the chemicals they use on most of our veggies. Its the residue of those poisons that we put into our unsuspecting innards... and that's what causes the burning sensation you are talking about... and of course it is not just celery, I can think of very many others that give me the same reaction... particularly those delightful red sweet peppers. They are the very worsed of the bunch. When I looked it up on the comp I read that red sweet peppers have the highest amount of pesticide residue. Something to think about.

12/14/2005 6:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and........... they say to wash your fruit and veggies well before eating. But that is not the answer. By the time it reaches the consumer, namely poor unsuspecting us, the pesticide has been incorporated into the tissues of the fruit/vegtb and therefore can't be scrubbed away. And that is what causes the unpleasant sensation.
Might I be right?
What do you think?

12/14/2005 6:43 PM  
Blogger oldhall said...

The celery was certified organic (in the UK), which, I believe, if fairly strict. Pesticides are not forbidden under the 'organic' banner, but their use is minimzed.

http://www.soilassociation.org/web/sa/saweb.nsf/Living/whatisorganic.html

As far as peppers go, I've heard the same thing, that which you describe.

12/14/2005 7:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

......... even if the produce you bought was grown without pesticides, there is still the problem of 'drifting' from neighboring fields. The law calls for a certain distance that must be adhered to where pesticides are introduced into a growing crop to prevent this 'drifting' effect into neighboring lands... but there again... that is something that is hard to control.
Remember the controversy about those fields of rape seed... and the 'drifting'?
But now we are getting away from pesticide... sorry.
Any comment?

12/14/2005 7:57 PM  
Blogger oldhall said...

Yeah, I do remember the issue, I'd forgotten it was rape seed, but, yes, I remember now.

My basic argument goes like this: I've eaten celery many, many times in my forty-one years, but I'd never experienced the numbing tongue before... so I ask myself, was there anything else 'unique' or noteworthy about my celery-eating on 12 December 2005? Well, yes, two things-

1) the celery was certified organic

and

2) it was flavourful

It was these datums from which I concluded that "real" celery tastes like something (as opposed to tasting like nothing), and... makes my tongue go numb.

Why might this be the case? There is a (naturally-occurring) chemical in celery called 3-n butyl phthalide, which aids in blood vessel dilation (or so I've read...)

So, if the celery is more 'natural', (a big "if") perhaps it has a higher concentration of 3-n butyl phthalide, and Lord only knows how this pile of watery biochemistry in action that I call "Me" will respond.

I would not try to claim that I'm-right-and-you're-wrong, I'm just making the case.

"Well I maintain that this scene is.. too appalling for me" (New York Dolls)

12/14/2005 8:50 PM  
Blogger Helly said...

*shaking her fist at the sky in true Scarlett O'Hara fashion*

As God is my witness, I'll never eat celery again!

12/15/2005 12:15 AM  
Blogger Cam said...

I found out what I have. It's called Oral Allergy Syndrome. Meh... it's boring.

I have seen Team America. I thought it was cool that it makes fun of both sides, but other than that, it was just silly. Love South Park though.

Yeah, all of those celebs were wanting to free Tookie from the death penalty. Hollywood scum in my opinion.

12/15/2005 11:31 AM  
Blogger Elliot said...

I've actually read, years ago, that there is something in celery that folks can react to. There were several accounts of people actually fainting after eating celery. Most of those accounts were after people had just engaged in some activity, like running, and then had a bunch of celery.

Of course, as an idealistic college student, I immediately went out and purchased a few pounds of celery, hoping to get that celery high I'd read about. Sadly, all I did was eat my vegetables. I didn't tell my mom.

12/15/2005 3:12 PM  
Blogger Elliot said...

...and fainting would probably be a result of getting too much of that 3-n butyl phthalide in your system, especially after you've been running all over the place.

12/15/2005 3:21 PM  
Blogger Sarah Elaine said...

OH - definitely sounds like you need some chocolate to counteract that bad reaction! Do keep us posted!

12/15/2005 9:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well, yes, excessive bloodvessel dilation could do some odd things, or so I would think, and particularly if one had also indulged in a handfull of raw carrot sticks at the same time, which reportedly are known to widen coronary arteries... so it goes on. Sounds much safer to stick to P.and J. sandwiches, even with the occasional white pebble thrown in. Just don't bite down too hard.

12/15/2005 9:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..now why didn't I think of chocolates?
I am so glad that the holidays are almost here... there is nothing like the happiness that only chokols can give... and you can keep the celery.

12/15/2005 9:35 PM  
Blogger Basketball Is Life said...

i worked in a raw organic restaurant and learned about the great powers of celery. i'd order the fresh made carrot juice with a celery stick. it's compounds offset some of the sugar in carrots.

and i'd notice a funny tingling for a long time after drinking a pint.

i soon thereafter realized celery was vegan-talk for rock cocaine.

now excuse me while i finish off this box of oreos.

12/16/2005 12:24 AM  
Blogger Basketball Is Life said...

oh and on a more serious note, if you wanna learn more, Rod Rotondi is the owner of www.leafcuisine.com, the raw organic restaurant (here in los angeles) i was babbling about before.

rods a wizard raw/vegan chef and a cool man.

12/16/2005 12:30 AM  
Blogger oldhall said...

B.i.L.- a very funny thing, I once read Oreos described as "a trans-fat delivery system".

We might visit Southern California in Spring, maybe we'll visit your radish haven!

Strange how it turns out that everyone has some kind of special knowledge about celery.

12/16/2005 8:08 AM  
Blogger kt said...

i do recall having the numb tongue whilst eating celery

i just don't like those hair-like things that get caught 'twixt the teeth. yuk yik

slathered in organic pnut butter, tho...now that's good!

sarah: i don't think oldhall eats much chocolate. he seems to eat only good things! and he's such a CON-O-SEUR! (SP?)

12/21/2005 9:16 PM  
Blogger Vale of York said...

..... goodness... are we still with the celery? Who would have thought that it would become such an important subject and to so many people. But there we go, one never knows.
Oh, and by the way, that 'anomymous' person with whom nobody else seemed to agree... and besides, I am almost sure that the rest of you have presented a more convincing point anyway...
Well, I do confess... it was me, little ole me, the other one from Yorkshire.
And won't this come as news to oldhall... How about it now, old chap... don't you agree with me just a little bit? If for no other reason then that we both live in Yorkshire?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey you're not the only one. i noticed it a couple of years ago and it does it with regular and organic celery. don't know what the deal is; allergy or common reaction?

10/01/2008 3:55 AM  
Blogger auntiedd said...

I have been trying to research the reason why celery can make my mouth numb, and I'm convinced it's a compound called Eugenol. This is the active ingredient in Clove Oil, and is used in temporary dental fillings to deaden the nerve pain of a cavity. The numbness that we experience from celery might be due to the numbing effects of Eugenol on your tounge.
The only thing I cant' figure out is why is it not everytime? It only happens to me occasionally. We could try to pay attention to what is different in each bunch of celery. (color maybe?)

12/09/2008 7:24 PM  
Blogger Wendy said...

All of this has come up because of the inherent evilness of the devil's vegetable celery. You can read more about it at the web site for the League for the Suppression of Celery

12/31/2008 6:30 PM  
Blogger Sara said...

Does the same to me: tongue numbness every time. I barely eat celery at all, never cook with it. Bleh, I don't even like the flavor at all at this point b/c of the association, I guess. It is the only vegetable I don't like/don't cook.

I don't think this is a pesticide drift issue (I buy organic) b/c it happens with no other food, and the biochemistry of celery some of you have mentioned is pretty impressive.

Auntiedd--if you are still reading, I suspect that celery (as with most forms of life, even though selectively bred) has variation in most traits. So some celery will grow taller, some will grow stringier, and some will produce more Eugenol than others. What's most interesting to me is how few of us seem to detect its presence through just eating a bit of it. Maybe everyone reacts if they have a pint of it juiced! I kind of hope so, but mostly I'm glad it's not just me having this response to celery. Thanks!

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